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Hello. I was recently standing at my post guarding IHC and it suddenly came to me that that’s boring as all hell so what if we got a rework. I was think to change nova to an elite regiment that specialises in all areas of combat and guarding. Including HVT assasinations, escorting HVT’s, breaching rooms and leading on the frontline. As well as more health and armour and new weapons like a sniper. I feel this will make nova more fun and more respectable and would also make it harder to get into. It would also go hand in hand with our CO’s backstory and current qualifications.

 

Thanks 

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BIG +1

Obviously might seem bias from Nova CO but Nova is quite boring as we do not have any actual motive. We guard IHC. 

Chimaera have Thrawn.

Death Troopers have Krennic AND technically Tarkin.

Nova gets jack shit but I'm hoping the rework would make Nova less boring and fun.

 

 

 

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Neutral | right now (Due to the fact that there is no specification on what regiment you would change into/rework too) - Nova it self is just a guarding regiment (For an elite branch) So certain aspects don't make sense for example: "HVT assassinations" - Which would be more a SF regiment/squad. 


More information regarding what regiment this would be changed to and the following specifics; 

- "As well as more health and armour" - How much are we talking 

- "in all areas of combat and guarding." - What sort of regiment, attack, defence or SF 

- "new weapons like a sniper" - Again exactly what regiment would this be (In lore) 

 

Not hating on NOVA or anything, just need more specifics/info etc. 

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Wouldn't that just turn you into Death Troopers but Nova?

I agree there needs to be a rework but it should be more fitting and less turning nova into a spec ofs regiment.

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1 hour ago, BigMacLettus said:

Hello. I was recently standing at my post guarding IHC and it suddenly came to me that that’s boring as all hell so what if we got a rework. 

 

MASSIVE -1, 
You're trying to make Nova a GOD REGIMENT, that's not their job. Your job is to Guard, you have to remember that you didn't sign up to be special forces. Join Storm Commandos if you wanted to do that. 

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2 minutes ago, Tesla Crunch said:

MASSIVE -1, 
You're trying to make Nova a GOD REGIMENT, that's not their job. Your job is to Guard, you have to remember that you didn't sign up to be special forces. Join Storm Commandos if you wanted to do that. 

I understand that, but Nova right now is completely useless.

Nobody asks for Nova because they all have their personal guards.

IHC doesn't need a specific regiment guarding them. 

We can be easily replaced with STs. 

The whole point of the rework is to make Nova more interesting, maybe not a spec ops regiment as Storm Commandos have that but something interesting.

 

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Neutral - It's unclear what you want to change Nova to and it shouldn't stray away from it's main purpose as a Guarding Regiment.

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Neutral

Nova should stay what it is, but it should get a specialist unit within it. The actual regiment shouldn't change doing what it's doing. Maybe a high-priority guard sub-unit which focuses on protecting any higher-up's that are aboard the ship, with special access to things such as better weaponry and explosives. Otherwise, join another regiment that is spec ops or recon.

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Guarding is guarding. At the end of the day, there is not much that can be done to help that.

Your most prevalent duty is protecting the generals so you can only really rely on their activity.

This regiment is a security (to some degree) and guarding regiment - and I am sure you were aware of that when joining it.

 

My best suggestion would be to simply place the burden on the commander to go out of their way to speak to generals about the "uselessness" of Nova and run the regiment effectively by implementing things like:

  • Have one regiment member assigned to a general to be their priority guard while one or more other troopers stay and guard Imperial High Command.
  • Do stuff like exercises and reward your troopers for doing well in them (ie. promotion). As in my personal opinion, promotions shouldn't be entirely based on promotion due dates or how well they do in a single event that lasts 30 minutes. It should be based off day to day performance. As promotions shouldn't be given for the sake of promoting someone.
  • Write and handbook detailing day to day operations.

 

So, in conclusion:

This is a matter that shouldn't be dealt with by staff and instead rectified by the generals and commanding officer of Nova. I don't believe a loadout change is necessary, why would you get snipers if you are not a reconnaissance regiment and why do you need a health boost? To use the argument you not being an attack regiment - you sort of are to some degree - as you do protect the generals in events. I also don't believe you should do assassinations frequently unless ordered by the generals. As my final verdict on this suggestion, I will be leaving a -1 as I believe these sort of things should be dealt with in-character, not on a forum post.

 

Thankyou.

Edited by [IG] Butcher232

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11 minutes ago, [IG] Butcher232 said:

Guarding is guarding. At the end of the day, there is not much that can be done to help that.

Your most prevalent duty is protecting the generals so you can only really rely on their activity.

This regiment is a security (to some degree) and guarding regiment - and I am sure you were aware of that when joining it.

 

My best suggestion would be to simply place the burden on the commander to go out of their way to speak to generals about the "uselessness" of Nova and run the regiment effectively by implementing things like:

  • Have one regiment member assigned to a general to be their priority guard while one or more other troopers stay and guard Imperial High Command.
  • Do stuff like exercises and reward your troopers for doing well in them (ie. promotion). As in my personal opinion, promotions shouldn't be entirely based on promotion due dates or how well they do in a single event that lasts 30 minutes. It should be based off day to day performance. As promotions shouldn't be given for the sake of promoting someone.
  • Write and handbook detailing day to day operations.

 

So, in conclusion:

This is a matter that shouldn't be dealt with by staff and instead rectified by the generals and commanding officer of Nova. I don't believe a loadout change is necessary, why would you get snipers if you are not a reconnaissance regiment and why do you need a health boost? To use the argument you not being an attack regiment - you sort of are to some degree - as you do protect the generals in events. I also don't believe you should do assassinations frequently unless ordered by the generals. As my final verdict on this suggestion, I will be leaving a -1 as I believe these sort of things should be dealt with in-character, not on a forum post.

 

Thankyou.

oath

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20 hours ago, Funk said:

 

IHC doesn't need a specific regiment guarding them. 

We can be easily replaced with STs. 

 

 

No, you're never going to be replaced with STs, and no IHC have personal guards. You guard IHC and the Engine room. If you're talking about shock taking IHC then tell the shock off. Shock are purely military police. If we forget about shock no one is stealing your jobs.

Now, with what you said about being replaced with STs, you have to understand your lore purpose was guarding high ranking officials and the Emperor during parades. Now even from a gameplay perspective STs can and are the most disorganised regiment due to the fact that tonnes of new players flood into it, it's impossible to control them at times and that's why nova exists

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3 hours ago, Tesla Crunch said:

No, you're never going to be replaced with STs, and no IHC have personal guards. You guard IHC and the Engine room. If you're talking about shock taking IHC then tell the shock off. Shock are purely military police. If we forget about shock no one is stealing your jobs.

Now, with what you said about being replaced with STs, you have to understand your lore purpose was guarding high ranking officials and the Emperor during parades. Now even from a gameplay perspective STs can and are the most disorganised regiment due to the fact that tonnes of new players flood into it, it's impossible to control them at times and that's why nova exists

But the whole 'mingy ST' thing has completely been destroyed since the non-mingy ones have the little symbol in their name.

And yeah, our lore is that but we don't do ANY of that. I have only escorted one high ranking personnel so far. 

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5 hours ago, [IG] Butcher232 said:

Guarding is guarding. At the end of the day, there is not much that can be done to help that.

Your most prevalent duty is protecting the generals so you can only really rely on their activity.

This regiment is a security (to some degree) and guarding regiment - and I am sure you were aware of that when joining it.

 

My best suggestion would be to simply place the burden on the commander to go out of their way to speak to generals about the "uselessness" of Nova and run the regiment effectively by implementing things like:

  • Have one regiment member assigned to a general to be their priority guard while one or more other troopers stay and guard Imperial High Command.
  • Do stuff like exercises and reward your troopers for doing well in them (ie. promotion). As in my personal opinion, promotions shouldn't be entirely based on promotion due dates or how well they do in a single event that lasts 30 minutes. It should be based off day to day performance. As promotions shouldn't be given for the sake of promoting someone.
  • Write and handbook detailing day to day operations.

 

So, in conclusion:

This is a matter that shouldn't be dealt with by staff and instead rectified by the generals and commanding officer of Nova. I don't believe a loadout change is necessary, why would you get snipers if you are not a reconnaissance regiment and why do you need a health boost? To use the argument you not being an attack regiment - you sort of are to some degree - as you do protect the generals in events. I also don't believe you should do assassinations frequently unless ordered by the generals. As my final verdict on this suggestion, I will be leaving a -1 as I believe these sort of things should be dealt with in-character, not on a forum post.

 

Thankyou.

I agree, but I can't do anything.

IHC haven't done much to help Nova. I've messed with the idea of removing Nova because it's so bad.

I've been doing a lot of training since people can have short attention spans and some people come to ACTUALLY play. Not stand and guard some post for 8 hours.

A solution to this problem is if high ranking personnel made use of Nova. Like on patrols and such.

I don't believe Nova needs a weapon change, as we are a guarding regiment but you can't ignore the fact that Nova is insanely boring compared to Chimaera and DT (I mean DT guard ISB AND Tarkin).

Why do you think I've been getting arrested so much? Isn't it clear to see?

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I understand this boredom, believe it or not I was once a guard dude who spent days even guarding. I want to see change just the degree and specifications is what i am yet to specify.

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I strongly believe we have way too many defence regiments. I understand of course they are all there for lore reasons but for the point of this being a game, we don't have the right things happening to support all these regiments. Nova is meant to guard IHC and other high ranking officers, but as Funk has stated there is never anyone who utilises them because there isn't really any other high ranking officers out there who need escorting that don't have their own private regiment. I believe Nova should be changed, whether its a whole change into a different regiment all together or just changes to give them something special to do. 

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Anyone want a Nova loredump? They are a very interesting regiment who absolutely did more than just guarding, and came with their own sub-regiments.

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18 hours ago, TI Toucan said:

Anyone want a Nova loredump? They are a very interesting regiment who absolutely did more than just guarding, and came with their own sub-regiments.

dump that shiT MOFUCKA

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I will preface this little essay with a disclaimer:

Nova Troopers are NOT canon. They exist purely in Star Wars Legends and were completely replaced by the Death Troopers. Their enhanced armour, modified E-11's and role guarding people and places of extreme significance to the Empire were all carried over to the Death Troopers. The two units served in exactly the same role - elite special forces assigned as honour guards. This makes the lines of jurisdiction difficult to truly establish, especially as Chimera Squad, which is another elite honour guard regiment that does not exist in lore at all, has also been added to the server. It is not surprising that these three variants of what is essentially the same regiment have difficulty getting along at times.

OKAY. Let's begin:

Nova Troopers were introduced in the MMO Star Wars Galaxies (which I recommend finding an emulation of, it's amazing and far better than SWTOR). Specifically, they were introduced in the Empire Divided expansion. The Imperial Handbook states that they are "Stormtroopers who have been selected for a place in the Emperor's honour guard", and that they are "rarely encountered outside of official Imperial ceremonies". The Star Wars Saga Edition RPG's Rebellion Era Campaign Guide further states that they are "assigned to historically significant locations...as well as to captured enemy starships." It also adds that "Novatroopers are distinguished by their distinctive...reinforced Stormtrooper armour". These elite troops could be found at extremely sensitive sites, such as the infamous Sith tombs of Korriban, the Emperor's personal retreat on Naboo and even guarding significant personnel. Although their use in offensive operations was rare, it was not completely unknown.

Notably, an early variant of Nova Troopers actually existed BEFORE the Empire Divided expansion. These were black and silver as opposed to black and gold, and were simply named "Stormtrooper Commandos". Later works (notably the 501st Legion's own costume reference library) identified them as Novatrooper Sentinels, the Nova's own special forces sub-regiment. Elites within an elite.

Nova Troopers had five different variants, which I will list below:

  • Nova Trooper Elites: Also known as commanders, Nova Trooper officers had access to better equipment than their comrades, including heavy weapons and armour. They were instantly identifiable by their collection of ammo pouches, pauldrons and backpacks (basically Nova Sandtroopers).
  • Nova Troopers: The standard variant used modified E-11's and a reinforced version of Stormtrooper armour. Well-trained and selected from some of the Stormtrooper Corp's best, they were versatile and skilled.
  • Nova Trooper Medics: Nova Troopers had their own medical specialists, trained and equipped to ensure their charges survived any assassination attempt. They were usually assigned as bodyguards. Identified by their distinctive pink armour highlights.
  • Nova Trooper Sentinels: Nova's special forces - these elite troops were the vanguard of the Nova forces and were more commonly used for 'take and hold' missions. They were easily distinguishable thanks to their silver armour highlights.
  • Dark Nova Troopers: Heavily modified Phase II Dark Trooper battle droids, these robotic soldiers were heavily armed and armoured, and proved to be a powerful deterrent for would-be attackers. They were massive compared to humans.

Nova Troopers, on average, are not as powerful individually as DT's. Their gear is modified ST gear, whilst DT's use custom-made equipment. They are well-trained, but DT's undergo cybernetic enhancement. An apt metaphor would be between ODST's and SPARTAN's in Halo. ODST's are badasses, but they're only human. Where Nova really shines is in their versatility and suitability for defence. Death Troopers are really elite commandos shoehorned into guarding - I feel they'd be happier going out and killing something, rather than waiting for the enemy to come to them.

Novas, however, are perfectly suited to defence. With Dark Troopers able to anchor a line and soak up fire, Sentinels able to flank and scout ahead for ambushes, Officers able to lay down suppressing fire and Medics to resupply and revive wounded VIP's, they are in my opinion an absolute unit when it comes to holding the line.

So what can we do with Nova to make them shine?

  1. Emphasise body-guarding as opposed to watching IHC. Nova's primary role should be the protection of VIP's. Not just IHC VIP's either, but anyone of sufficient clearance to be able to request a bodyguard. This keeps Nova troopers moving around and interacting with powerful people, creating RP opportunities for the reg.
  2. Add the following custom variants to Nova, with perhaps two slots for each.
    a) Medics. This gives Nova some versatility and lets the MT's concentrate on the front line, healing troopers and special forces lads whilst Nova keep their charges alive.
    b) Sentinels. Give them close-range weaponry and (possibly) cloaking. Their job is to scout their VIP's paths to flush out any ambushes or provide discrete protection in sensitive situations. Though powerful, they are limited by a lack of sniper options (so they don't compete with SC) and their VERY limited slots.

That's my thoughts, anyway. Feel free to make whatever you want of them.

 

 

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I mean if one regiment in a section get more HP and a weapon rework / buff then all the others in that section would have to get balanced and be equal aswell.  BUT I do agree.

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5 hours ago, TI Toucan said:

 

  1.  Add the following custom variants to Nova, with perhaps two slots for each.
    a) Medics. This gives Nova some versatility and lets the MT's concentrate on the front line, healing troopers and special forces lads whilst Nova keep their charges alive.
     

 

How to nullify a regiments job 101

i highly doubt they would only focus on Nova, maybe if a MT was assigned to NT but over all was still under command of MT CO, may not be quite as lore friendly but there'll be a lot pissing contest between Nova MTs and regular MTs, i don't see them co-existing well

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If sub-regiments are going to become a thing within Nova Troopers, and then other regiments, we may as well cut out half of the current regiments as theoretically, all the special forces/Medics can be utilised into sub regiments of Nova-Troopers, and even Storm Troopers which looks like its already slowly becoming a thing with the Red ST models.

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Posted (edited)

I thought that nova troopers were the same as galactic marines in the sense that they are able to fight in harsh conditions like the vacuum of space.

 

+1 anyway because I like them

Edited by Boi

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-1 for the idea of more weapons. Nova already have the E-11D which is obnoxiously powerful (And it seems pretty much every regiment gets them anyway) so I fail to see the need to bolster Nova's arsenal even more.

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I honestly disagree with Nova having full-blown E-11D's. Nova are meant to be at a technological disadvantage compared to Death Troopers. They should either have a buffed version of the E-11 or a nerfed version of the E-11D.

 

 

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I'm going to say neutral I may be new to nova but the kit you get once becoming a Nova trooper is very deadly and due to the fact that we have powerful weapons means that we shouldn't have the best health as if we did everyone would want to become Nova. Having Nova at this state would be mean the other regiments become obsolete. 

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